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Post by heather35 on Mar 7, 2011 12:24:04 GMT -5
what happened to last night's meet and greets wondering the same thing...I wonder if it's because of the other ones being the way they were & how a lot of people were talking. I hope it doesn't get to be a private thing & we don't get to see them anymore. I just want to add that I think it's horrible that it takes this to make the IM busy like it should be.
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Post by sunshine on Mar 7, 2011 15:23:05 GMT -5
Well the IM mods keep pulling the "offending" threads so that'll keep the board quiet again. And I have to say, it's a little irritating when people dismiss how some fans perceived John's performance in Tacoma. Everything I've read and videos I've seen, lead me to believe all was not ok. But there are some people who will defend him to the death and make the fans seem like they're full of shit. It's disrespectful and it'll keep me from ever expressing my real feelings about a Goo concert in the future. Don't want to deal with the fallout.
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 7, 2011 17:21:33 GMT -5
Honestly, them pulling the second Tacoma thread (which was more polite than the first) was unwarranted, more so than the first one which was still unwarranted. Personally, I have very shaky thoughts on this considering the continuous conflicting reports arising from this -- especially since there is evidence out there supporting both sides. I gave benefit to the doubt to the people disappointed in him since they didn't seem like the people who had an axe to grind, yet on the other hand, I couldn't ignore the people who stated that the claims were exaggerated once they had the appropriate hard evidence to back it up. Admittedly, I'd previously thought that said people were trying to cover John's ass but videos do not lie so there ya go. Regardless of my vacillating thoughts on the matter, when people who weren't at the concert were defending him and making up excuses, I got annoyed. I wish I would have asked how those people would they like it if they attended a show like that. I'd know that I'd be pissed. I give credit where credit is due, but I also won't hesitate to give them shit when they deserve it (Fun fact - it's why I created this board -- so I wouldn't have to tiptoe around everything! . That being said, the good they do usually outweighs the bad by a large margin so that's why I continue to be a fan.
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Post by heather35 on Mar 7, 2011 19:36:09 GMT -5
Whatever is going on I just hope everything is ok with John and things get worked out cause this is definitely not the norm for him at all to be in this state for a show and meet and greet.
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 7, 2011 19:50:25 GMT -5
He'll be fine. Nothing happened the night after Tacoma so it was just an off-night then.
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Post by heather35 on Mar 7, 2011 19:54:31 GMT -5
I just heard a YouTube clip of Slide from last night and he sounded great.
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Post by sunshine on Mar 7, 2011 23:06:12 GMT -5
What gives it away for me, in addition to the questionable mumbling of lyrics for the videos I've seen, is his lack of stage movement. He is usually more animated on stage and he looks like he's afraid of leaving the mic or moving too much. I've been to 15 concerts over the years. This is not the John I'm used to seeing or hearing.
The Idaho vid sounds so much better than the 3 I saw/heard from Tacoma.
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Post by magnetronnie on Mar 8, 2011 3:55:23 GMT -5
I'm a bit confused now and haven't been on the IM last few days, what really happened? I read some stuff on YouTube that John looked like he was drunk on stage, but then someone replied saying he's still sick, so it's probably the medication. Does that have anything to do with it?
-nm- just read the topic on AG.
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Post by roxy on Mar 8, 2011 16:09:37 GMT -5
I'm a little late, I just got around to watching some of the vids. They were ok. By some of the comments I was afraid that John burst into flames or something.
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Post by sunshine on Mar 8, 2011 16:20:05 GMT -5
I'm a little late, I just got around to watching some of the vids. They were ok. By some of the comments I was afraid that John burst into flames or something. You really thought that performance of Iris was ok?
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 8, 2011 16:20:23 GMT -5
Well, he was 'deathly ill' a few weeks ago, you never know. In all seriousness though, I think it's safe to say he'd been drinking prior to the concert and it affected the performance somewhat. Not completely wasted like some people thought, just a bit affected.
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 8, 2011 16:21:00 GMT -5
I'm a little late, I just got around to watching some of the vids. They were ok. By some of the comments I was afraid that John burst into flames or something. You really thought that performance of Iris was ok? I think she meant the Here Is Gone/Broadway videos. Those were ok even though John was still during them. Edit - ROXY! I LOVE YOUR NEW AVIE. I giggled at the under-avie text. XD
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Post by roxy on Mar 8, 2011 16:40:19 GMT -5
^ Thanks! You're right, I don't mean Iris, that wasn't very good, but the others were okay. I was just expecting them to be worse. I assume he was drinking, and sick, and probably drinking while on meds isn't bright, but I was worried the vids would be worse.
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Post by sunshine on Mar 8, 2011 16:51:33 GMT -5
OK, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying. I thought Iris was pitiful. Broadway is better than Here is Gone, imo. HIG is still not all that good.
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Post by heather35 on Mar 8, 2011 17:15:46 GMT -5
I'm a little late, I just got around to watching some of the vids. They were ok. By some of the comments I was afraid that John burst into flames or something. Love your avie's Roxy & Erica!! ;D he!! he!! He might if someone striked a match.. (I'm so bad..) I just think he was having a good time and the meds intensified that just more. The guys deserve a drink here & there but John's bad judgement before the show was not good one at all. Maybe other things were going on and we shouldn't be haste to judge him if we don't know the whole story. Love that Annie mentioned he used a COWBELL!! awesome!! I would pay to see that one!!
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